FORM 8-K NSE 1Q Conference Call April 21, 2004
UNITED STATES
SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
Washington, DC 20549
FORM 8-K
CURRENT REPORT
Pursuant to Section 13
or 15(d) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934
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April 21, 2004
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NU SKIN ENTERPRISES, INC.
(Exact name of registrant as specified in its charter)
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Delaware
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001-12421
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87-0565309
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75 West Center Street
Provo, UT 84601
(Address of principal executive offices and zip code)
(801) 345-1000
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Item 12.
Results of
Operations and Financial Condition.
On April 21, 2004, Nu Skin
Enterprises hosted a conference call to review financial results for the first quarter
ended March 31, 2004. A transcript of the call is attached as Exhibit 99.1 to this report
and incorporated by reference.
The information furnished in this
report and the exhibit hereto shall not be deemed filed for purposes of
Section 18 of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended (the Exchange
Act), or incorporated by reference in any filing under the Securities Act of 1933,
as amended, or the Exchange Act.
Exhibit No.
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Exhibit Description
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99.1 |
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Transcript of Nu Skin Enterprises April 21, 2004 conference call regarding financial
results of the first quarter of 2004. |
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SIGNATURE
Pursuant to the requirements of the
Securities Exchange Act of 1934, the registrant has duly caused this report to be signed
on its behalf by the undersigned hereunto duly authorized.
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NU SKIN ENTERPRISES, INC. (Registrant)
/s/ Ritch N. Wood Ritch N. Wood Chief Financial Officer |
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Date: April 27, 2004
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Transcript of Nu Skin Enterprises April 21, 2004 conference call regarding financial
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Exhibit 99.1 April 21, 2004 Investor Call Q1 8-K
NU SKIN ENTERPRISES
FIRST QUARTER
CONFERENCE CALL TRANSCRIPT
APRIL 21, 2004
Operator: |
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Good morning, my name is Thea and I will be the conference operator. At this time, I would
like to welcome everyone to the first quarter earnings conference call. All lines have
been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers remarks,
there will be a question and answer period. If you would like to ask a question at that
time, then please press star and the number 1 on your telephone
keypad. If you would like to adjunct your question, you may press star and the
number 2 on your telephone keypad. Thank you, Scott Pond, you may begin, sir. |
Mr. Pond: |
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Thank you. Good morning, we appreciate all those joining us today on this
conference call and listening over the Internet. Im Scott Pond, Manager
of Investor Relations, working with Charlie Allen, and Im here with
Truman Hunt, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Ritch Wood, Chief
Financial Officer. Following managements discussion of the companys
operations, the call will be open for questions. As a reminder, during this
call, comments may be made which will include some forward-looking statements.
These statements involve risks and uncertainties, and as you know, actual
results may differ materially from those discussed or anticipated. We encourage
you to refer to our 2003 Annual Report filed on form 10-K and todays
earnings release for a complete discussion of risks associated with these
forward-looking statements. I will now turn the time over to Truman Hunt. |
Mr. Hunt: |
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Good morning everyone. Thanks for joining us today. Ritch and I are
actually making this call from New York City this morning where later today
well be presenting at the Sidoti Emerging Growth Investor Forum. We hope
to see some of you there. Our presentation begins at 2:40 p.m. this afternoon
at the Grand Hyatt. Were pleased to have announced this morning better
than expected first quarter revenue and earnings. In fact, we had a record
first quarter with revenue of $264 million representing a healthy 20 percent
growth rate. Earnings per share were $0.20, an increase of 25 percent for the
quarter, and two cents higher than consensus estimates. While were
benefiting from a favorable comparison and enjoy the benefit of currency
movement year-over-year, our revenue results are nevertheless a record level
for the first quarter. |
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This is
a result of positive trends in each of our key geographies. In Mainland China we continue
to generate strong growth. The market posted revenue of $23 million for the quarter which
represented a sequential 27 percent improvement over the fourth quarter. This is higher
than we anticipated, particularly in light of the Chinese New Year which was celebrated
during the quarter, and which we felt really slowed us down in the first quarter of last
year, just after we commenced operations in China. China has obviously become a very
important market for us and we continue to believe that it could become a $300 to $500
million market over the next several years. As we have explained in the past, China
regulators continue their work to develop regulations to govern the direct selling
industry. We expect those regulations to be published before the end of the year, and we
remain optimistic that the regulations will enable us to operate on a level playing field
with our large competitors in China who are already direct selling. A great deal of our
management effort in China is focused on training our now significant sales force. We
continue to grow a substantial sales representative and preferred customer base in China.
We now have over 4,300 sales representatives in our employ and our preferred customer
base is growing at a very rapid rate. In fact, in the month of March alone we added over
1,400 preferred customers in China every day, which is just an incredible number. We also
continue to spend a lot of energy on building government relations. In fact, this evening
in Beijing, which was just a few hours ago, former President Bush, who as you know was
once the U.S. Ambassador to China, appeared on our behalf and hosted a reception of high
level government officials for us. It went extremely well. Its through efforts like
this, we believe, weve established ourselves as a direct selling industry leader
worthy of treatment equal to whats been afforded to our large competitors. |
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In
Japan we posted 1 percent local currency revenue growth. This is a good showing when one
considers a couple of issues we faced this quarter. As you know, Japan suspended beef
imports from the United States as a result of a mad-cow discovery in December. They also
suspended the importation of bovine-based gelatin capsules in nutritional supplements. And
when you consider the size of our business in Japan, this news understandably raised some
concerns. However, our Pharmanex and Japan management teams did an excellent job
navigating this issue, especially with respect to supply chain management and field
communications. By mid-February, during the quarter, we had transitioned from capsules to
caplets and we had a new form of LifePak in distribution in Japan. We also transitioned
other Pharmanex products in Japan to porcine-based capsules and as a result we were able
to limit stock-out situations to less significant Pharmanex products. And the team in
Japan was able to effectively communicate the changes to our sales force and to our
consumer base, minimizing any potential concerns among those audiences. But, today
were pleased and can confidently say that the BSE issues are behind us. As you know,
we also held our international distributor convention in February in the U.S. This took a
lot of Japans distributors out of their home market in February. This group spent
over $3 million on products purchased at our U.S. convention. Thats $3 million that
is not attributed to Japan in the Q1 numbers. So all things considered, we feel that Japan
had a healthy quarter. |
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the first quarter we also performed well in the United States with revenue of $35 million,
an increase of 16 percent over the first quarter of last year. Now this includes $6.2
million of sales to international distributors at the U.S. convention in February.
However, its also important to note that revenue in the first quarter of 2003
included about $5 million of Big Planet services that we discontinued in the third quarter
of 2003. So excluding these two factors, our U.S. business grew about 15 percent during
the first quarter of 2004. And our nutrition business in the U.S. grew 40 percent
year-over-year with LifePak sales, which as you know is our flagship Pharmanex product,
growing a remarkable 119 percent, due to the impact of the Pharmanex BioPhotonic Scanner
and incentives that are tied to the sale of LifePak. During the first quarter, new
distributor sign-ups in the United States were up more than 50 percent over the prior year
and up more than 20 percent sequentially over Q4. We have more distributors in the
qualification process to be an executive level distributor today in the United States than
we have had at any point in the last six years. |
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Overall,
our executive distributor count in the United States is up 14 percent. On a global basis,
much of our growth is coming from the positive and significant benefits of a growing and
loyal customer base. In the United States, we have found that automatic shipment
subscribers remain our customers much longer on the average than non-subscribers do. So,
our automatic shipment subscriber base, as our automatic shipment subscriber base grows
the associated increase in retention rate has a very positive impact on the business.
Globally, in the month of March, we shipped 259,000 automatic subscription orders, which
is an increase of 55 percent over last year. So, were very pleased with this trend
as well. |
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Now
just a quick word about a couple of other markets in particular. Hong Kong reached a
record sales level for the quarter, up 38 percent, which is an impressive growth rate for
a market that we opened, now, over 13 years ago. South Korea, which is also, its an
8 eight year old market for us, continues to rebound with revenue and local currency up 15
percent, a trend that we expect to continue throughout the year. We also continue to focus
attention on our emerging markets and are looking to adapt, as you know, our business
model to be more successful in some of these economies. Thailand has been an interesting
case study for us. It continues to be a star market with a 39 percent increase in revenue
for the quarter. Over the past few years Thailand has now grown to become a meaningful
piece of our business. In three years there our revenue has tripled to about $6.8 million
in the first quarter of 2004 and we now represent about 5 percent of Thailands
direct selling market. In Latin America we recently introduced a new business model with a
modified compensation plan in an effort to make headway in Latin American markets where
weve not generated the results we desire. During the quarter combined revenue in
Brazil, Mexico, and Guatemala was up 19 percent. So, were encouraged with these
results, but were obviously still very early, in the very early stages, of modifying
our business model there. |
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As
I mentioned earlier, this quarter we held our global distributor convention to kick off
our twenty year anniversary celebration. We had over 10,000 distributors from around the
world join us in Salt Lake City. These conventions, which as you know, we hold every 18
months, are our best platform to introduce major product innovations. The Nu Skin product
introductions included a new and improved Galvanic Spa System, significant improvements to
that device, which is a multi-purposed system that brings advanced spa treatments into the
home. And our top-selling convention product was the Pharmanex TRA System which is an
innovative and stimulant free system for weight management, which is a category we have
yet to penetrate in a meaningful way, so we were very pleased with those results.
Were confident, in fact, very confident, that we have the resources in place to
continue to innovate and differentiate in each of our key product categories. Now, before
I offer some thoughts on the balance of 2004, let me turn the time over to Ritch to
provide some details on the financials. |
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Thank you, Truman and good morning everyone. Let me quickly provide the local
currency sales figures from our major geographies. First quarter
revenue in
Japan was 14.6 billion Yen versus 14.5 billion Yen in the first quarter of
2003. Quarterly revenue in South Korea was 18.5 billion Won versus 16 billion
Won in 2003. In Greater China revenue from Taiwan during the quarter was 569
million NT dollars versus 609 million NT dollars last year, while Hong Kong
reached a record 60 million Hong Kong dollars, versus 43 million Hong Kong
dollars in the prior year. In China, revenue was 189 million RMB during this
quarter versus 32 million RMB in the prior year quarter, which youll
recall was our first quarter of expanded operations in China. In South Asia the
combined U.S. dollar revenue from Malaysia and Singapore was $8.9 million
versus $9.6 million in the first quarter of 2003. Thailand also posted record
first quarter revenue of 265 million Baht compared to 191 million Baht last
year. Our U.S. market generated $35.1 million in revenue during the first
quarter, compared to $30.4 million in 2003, which included $5 million of
revenue from Big Planet products and services that we no longer offer. Our
first quarter 2004 revenue included $5.8 million of revenue from product sales
to international distributors during our convention in February. First quarter
revenue in Europe was $8.5 million compared to $7.6 million in the first
quarter of 2003. |
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As
a result of the companys business model in China, which offers preferred
customer status to retail customers in that market, as well as an increasing
emphasis on preferred customer incentives for non-distributor purchasers in other markets,
we have changed the way we determine and report active distributors. We began
including, as you know, our China preferred customers in our active distributor count last
year. With the number of preferred customers growing now in the U.S. and other markets and
because of the importance these customers are to our revenue base, we are now including
preferred customers from all markets. These are customers who purchase products directly
from the company and weve included this number during the quarter in our active
distributor count beginning in the first quarter of 2004 and prior year numbers also
include these preferred customers for more accurate, comparative purposes. Active
distributors and preferred customers increased 23 percent to 732,000 at March 31, 2004
compared to 597,000 in the prior year. Were encouraged with this growth and believe
that our focus on increasing retention will positively impact our overall business. |
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First
quarter gross margin improved 230 basis points compared to prior year results, up to 83.4
percent. This improvement is due primarily to the discontinued low margin products and
services from Big Planet, higher gross margins in Mainland China resulting from in-house
manufacturing and favorable foreign currency exchange rates. Assuming consistency in
foreign currency rates, we anticipate gross margins will improve slightly in the coming
quarter and in the year to the 83.5 to 84.0 percent range for the year. |
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Selling
expenses as a percent of revenue were up to 42.7 percent. This is an increase of 260 basis
points compared to the prior year. This increase is due to higher costs associated with
employed sales representatives in China where we have to pay benefits and also
unemployment costs associated with employee sales reps there, as well as the elimination
of Big Planet revenue in the third quarter of 2003. Youll recall that that revenue
was really very low commissioned or non-commissioned revenue. We expect selling expenses
to remain in the 42.5 to 43.0 percent range for the remainder of 2004. |
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General
and administrative expenses as a percent of revenue improved 30 basis points over prior
year results to 31.7 percent. This is despite approximately $6 million of expenses
associated with the distributor convention in February versus expenses of approximately $4
million related to a Japan convention in the first quarter of 2003. The improvement in
general and administrative expenses reflects our commitment to gaining operational
efficiencies from higher revenue and by controlling overhead expenses. First quarter
operating margin, therefore, was 9 percent, essentially even with prior year results. This
keeps us on track to post 12 percent operating margin for the year which has been our
stated goal. We remind you that we will host a Japan convention during the fourth quarter
of 2004 and this will add approximately $4 million to our G&A expenses in that
quarter. |
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During
the first quarter, interest expense was $1.5 million. We paid dividends of $5.8 million
and invested $5.9 million in capital improvements. We generated a cash flow from
operations of $17.4 million during the first quarter which is a significant improvement
over the same period in 2003. |
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We
continue to model our 2004 Japan revenue with an average Yen rate of approximately 110 for
the year. In local currency, we expect Japan to post revenue mostly level with prior year
results in the second and third quarters, and expect to post modest year-over-year growth
in the fourth quarter. With strong first quarter results in China weve raised our
2004 guidance there to $100 to $110 million. Thats up from the $80 million that we
had guided to previously. And we continue to project 20 percent revenue growth in our
combined Pharmanex and Nu Skin business in the U.S. in 2004. |
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summary, we increased our 2004 overall guidance to $1.10 to $1.12 billion of revenue. We
expect operating margins, again, to be in the 12 percent range for the year, and earnings
per share of approximately $1.10 to $1.14. Again, thats $1.10 to $1.14, which is up
from our previous guidance of $1.04 to $1.08. We expect second quarter revenue to be
approximately $270 to $275 million, and earnings per share to increase 30 to 40 percent
which would put us at $0.26 to $0.28 for the second quarter. So with that, let me turn the
time back to Truman. |
Mr. Hunt: |
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Okay, thanks Ritch. The keys to converting a record first quarter into a record
year are pretty straight forward. Well continue to concentrate our
efforts on our three key geographies: Japan, United States, and China. As
weve indicated over the last several months, we have not anticipated a
huge level of growth in Japan in 2004, and believe that well have a very
successful year overall if we can just hold Japan even with last years
results. And hopefully, as Ritch indicated, start to grow sales volumes
slightly in Q4. We intend to build momentum in Japan by expanding on our large
consumer base there and by preparing for a fourth quarter launch of the
Pharmanex BioPhotonic Scanner, which we think can have a similar result to what
were seeing in the United States and help to rekindle growth in that
market. Were also preparing for a Japanese convention during the fourth
quarter where the scanner will be launched and where well introduce new
personal care and nutritional products into that market. Second, we need to
grow our U.S. business by 20 percent. Well continue to drive retention by
focusing our efforts on increasing our monthly product subscriber base and we
will continue to build our distributor leadership by attracting new
entrepreneurs to our business with the compelling Pharmanex story. Third, we
need to continue to increase China revenue sequentially throughout 2004 and
ensure solid infrastructure for growth and expansion. We plan to open one more
city in the second quarter and then four more cities during the balance of the
year, which will bring our total number of cities opened to 28 by the end of
2004. However, our immediate objective in China and our highest priority is to
train our growing sales force which will enable us to build a solid foundation
for what we believe will be a very significant market for us down the road. As
we previously indicated, we look to introduce Pharmanex into China in 2005 and
with favorable regulatory developments and further geographic expansion we
believe that China will enjoy continued growth for the foreseeable future. So,
by executing effectively on our key geographies were confident that we
can build our record first quarter to make 2004 a record year for Nu Skin
Enterprises. Okay, with that well open the call for a few questions. |
Operator: |
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At this time, I would like to remind everyone that if you would like to ask a question you
may press star and the number 1 on your telephone keypad. Again,
to ask a question, you may press star followed by the number 1 on
your telephone keypad, now. Well pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A
roster. Your first question is from Kathleen Reed of Stanford Financial. |
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Good morning. Just a couple quick questions, first, could you just break out
the components of gross margin expansion, how much the Yen benefited you of the
200-plus gross margin, how much was the China facility? |
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Sure. Hi, Kathy, this is Ritch. |
Mr. Wood: |
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We had about 120 basis point improvement because of the Big Planet, you know,
changes that weve made. 80 basis of improvement, 80 basis point
improvement from China, and about 30 basis point improvement from exchange
rates. Its actually a little bit higher than that for exchange rates but
then we had an offset due to some BSE issues which ended up costing us about 30
additional basis points. |
Ms. Reed: |
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Okay,
great. Second of all, the executive level numbers seem to be up in every region
except one noticeable one is just Japan and theyre still down on a
year-over-year basis. They do seem like theyre down less than they were
in the fourth quarter of 2003. Do you have any, just expectations when we
should see the executive numbers go up in Japan and just what some of the
initiatives you have to institute that? |
Mr. Hunt: |
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I think, as youll note Kathy, the health of our business is really
demonstrated also by our active distributor growth which were encouraged
with. You may recall that the prior year executive number declined a little bit
from Q1 to Q2. Now, we dont actually expect this, we expect some small
improvement from here. But were seeing just fundamental development of
the business there, better efforts at retaining customers and as weve
indicated, the thing that we think is going to drive growth in our executive
numbers by the end of the year is the introduction of the scanner which, as you
know, has driven good executive growth here in the U.S. and we have determined
just in the last couple of weeks to proceed with the scanner launch there in
the fourth quarter. So hopefully, well even start to see some good buzz
from that announcement in the upcoming couple of quarters. |
Ms. Reed: |
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So,
you think Japan executive levels could turn positive on a year-over- year basis
in the fourth quarter? Mr. Hunt: Yes, I think youll even see them trend
up a little bit in the second quarter. Ms. Reed: And then just finally, just if
you could touch upon the process of where you stand with your SEC review, if
theres any new updates? I think you put in another response, just if you
have any, you know, new information from that, and the timing of when we can
expect that to be resolved? |
Mr. Wood: |
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Yes, good question. We filed our response, as you know, with the SEC
approximately ten days ago. This was our response relating to intangible assets
and the useful lives of those intangible assets. We disclosed that in our 10-K,
that information. So we would anticipate, I think, hearing back from the SEC
within the next week or two and hopefully, you know, resolving any outstanding
issues within the next month. So, I think were, hopefully, on the tail
end of this process. |
Ms. Reed: |
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Okay, great, thanks very much. |
Operator: |
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Your
next question is from Mimi Sokolowski from Sidoti & Company. |
Ms. Sokolowski: |
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Hi, I have pretty much just one quick question. Pharmanex is pretty successful
in the U.S. and it has something to do with demographic trends here, the
emphasis on fitness and the fact that 65 percent of the adult population is
overweight and I think that helps. Are there any similar trends that you see in
Japan and China that would give you confidence in the introduction of the
scanner and the introduction of Pharmanex for China? |
Mr. Hunt: |
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Mimi, when we introduced nutrition products in Japan in the mid 90s, we
actually were really quite pleased with the response that we got. A lot of
people didnt think that we would benefit much in a society where diets
are typically better than what we Americans are consuming. But they are very
health conscious and you know the Japanese diet overall, as is the case
throughout most of Asia, is westernizing and unfortunately becoming worse than
it has been historically. So, were very optimistic about the nutrition
category outside of the U.S. Youre right, demographic trends weigh very
much in our favor with baby-boomers who continue to approach retirement age,
with modern medicine keeping us alive much longer on the average, but not
necessarily keeping us much healthier, with the cost of health care and
medicine going up dramatically, prescription drug benefits extremely expensive,
all of those trends play very much in favor of the nutrition category. And
while we dont see the age wave quite to the same degree we do in the
United States in other countries were very optimistic about the nutrition
category outside of the U.S. |
Ms. Sokolowski: |
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How big of a business do you think Pharmanex can be in China in its first year?
Do you care to take a stab at that? |
Mr. Hunt: |
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You know we havent given any 2005 guidance yet. I think probably at the
end of the second quarter well start talking about 2005 and start to give
a little bit of a preview on what we expect to there in 2005. |
Ms. Sokolowski: |
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Okay, fair enough. Thank you very much. |
Operator: |
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next question is from Chris Ferrara of Merrill Lynch. |
Mr. Ferrera: |
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Hey guys. Can you talk a little bit about profitability in China
at this point? |
Mr. Wood: |
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Sure. Hi, Chris. |
Mr. Ferrera: |
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How are you? |
Mr. Wood: |
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Good, thanks. In China were very encouraged with our profitability,
although it doesnt follow the exact model we see in other markets. Our
gross margins come in about 500 basis points right now higher than the gross
margins throughout a lot of our other markets. At the same time, our
distributor incentives, you know our sales employee expenses, are quite a bit
higher coming in somewhere in the 48 percent range right now. So, those two
benefits and the increased cost primarily associated with unemployment payments
and benefit payments for sales employees kind of off-set each other. In the
quarter, our profitability was approximately 15 percent on a local basis so, its
additive really to the rest of the business and that will continue to improve,
I think, a little bit as we go forward and continue to leverage the
infrastructure that we have in place there. To answer your question, really,
overall it is as good or slightly better already today than the rest of our
businesses. |
Mr. Ferrera: |
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Yes, thats what I was looking for. How will that change or how could it
change potentially with deregulation? Mr. Wood: Well, the biggest issue is if
we dont have to pay the benefit and the unemployment costs associated
with our sales reps. So, depending on how the regulations treat the requirement
for employing your sales force there could be a nice benefit there. |
Mr. Ferrera: |
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And, obviously China is way ahead of what you guys had originally said. Is
there anything that is significantly different or is that just more a function
of how conservative youve been with what your projections have been thus
far? |
Mr. Hunt: |
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Well, Chris, this is Truman, as I indicated, we really thought that Chinese New
Year would have a little bit more of an impact than it did in Q1. We actually
are being very cautious about our growth in China because we dont want to
face an environment where perhaps our growth is a little bit overheated at a
moment in time when the regulators are considering these new regulations and
how they want to regulate the industry. So, we are taking steps to actually
slow our business down a little bit, to make sure that our people receive good
training, you know make sure that these folks know what they are doing and that
is part of the reason why we are being somewhat cautious about China, even for
the remainder of the year, is that we are really anxious to get the regs in
place and train our sales force and build a foundation for the future, more so
than just maximizing top line growth. |
Mr. Ferrera: |
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So,
youre reigning in potential sales in China just to avoid
overheating? |
Mr. Ferrera: |
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How
are you doing that? |
Mr. Hunt: |
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Well,
in some of our cities we have actually chosen to suspend the hiring
of new sales reps, for example, and we are working with local
regulators there to make sure they are comfortable with our business
growth and we have done this in a couple of cities and we believe
that it is a prudent thing to do as we continue to work with the
regulators on the new regs. |
Mr. Ferrera: |
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Alright, thank you very much. |
Operator: |
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next question is from Doug Lane of Avondale Partners. |
Mr. Lane: |
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Yes, good morning everybody. Can we talk about the scanners a little bit?
How many, just to try to get a feel for how many are placed in the U.S. now,
where you obviously are getting, you know, critical masses, obviously moving
the needle pretty heavily now for the last couple of quarters on the nutrition
business? And then you had mentioned some distribution of the scanners overseas
outside of Japan and if you can give us an update there and when you think
those other markets will begin to show some benefit from that selling tool
being in those markets? And then lastly, can you give us a feeling for the time
table to the fourth quarter launch in Japan? Have you begun ramping up
production for the Japanese markets? How many are you going to initially
introduce in Japan in the fourth quarter of this year? And then how many do you
ultimately see being in Japan by the end of 2005? |
Mr. Hunt: |
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Yeah, that is a lot of questions. Let me tick through them here. In the U.S.
right now, we have about a 1,000 units out in the field and continue to add
about 100 to150 a month. In overseas markets we only have a few units primarily
in Southeast Asia. We have none in Japan. We have a few in Taiwan, Singapore,
Malaysia, Hong Kong and those are units actually that we are basically running
in our walk-in centers there, are already having an impact. I think some of the
trends that you see in our growing product subscriber base stems from just the
presence of even a few units in those markets. We are ramping up production.
Our U.S. manufacturing capacity is only about 200 a month in the facility that
we are using here and so, we are building out a plant in China where we will be
able to manufacture between 150 and 200 units a week, hopefully by mid-summer,
in the July/August timeframe. We havent, we are being a little bit
cautious about what we are saying with respect to a roll out in Japan in Q4
because we are really still in the planning stages. It is not going to be a
question of manufacturing constraint at that moment. We will have good
manufacturing capacity. It is just going to be a question of how we choose to
roll the units out in that market. The scanner presentation will be a little
different in Japan than it is in the U.S. The regulatory attitude there is
different than what it is in the U.S. So, the positioning will be modified a
little bit, mostly for the better, however, we feel. But, we really dont
have a number to tell you today, Doug, about how scanner distribution will look
in Q4. But, I would say that.... |
Mr. Lane: |
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Are you now ramping up production in the U.S. for Japan, so you have actually
already started making the machines and speaking of the regulatory process is
there some sort of registration that you have to go through in Japan and can
you give us an update on the FDA involvement in North America? |
Mr. Hunt: |
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All of the U.S. manufacturing capacity is being absorbed in the U.S. with us
managing to peel off a few units to send into our foreign markets and put in
our walk-in centers there. So, no, we are not currently manufacturing for Japan
today, but by June 1st we will be in the manufacturing business in
China and start warehousing some inventory for a Japan launch in Q4. On the
regulatory front, there is not a registration requirement in Japan. We are
positioning this device and will be using it clearly for non-medical purposes.
We are talking to the regulators there to make sure that we are clear in how we
are positioning the scanner to avoid medical device registration requirements
and were, you know, pretty confident today that we are going to be able
to do that much as we have in the U.S. In the U.S. there is no regulatory
update. The FDA continues to be quiet on the issue and so, we continue to put
150 units a month into the U.S. market. |
Mr. Lane: |
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Okay, thank you. |
Operator: |
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Again,
if you would like to ask a question, you may press "star" and the number "1" on your
telephone key pad. There is a follow up question from Kathleen Reid
of Stanford Financial. |
Ms. Reed: |
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Thanks, can you just comment a little bit on Taiwan, the sales are down, I
believe, year-over-year and the quarter, just what is going on with that
market? |
Mr. Hunt: |
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Yeah, thanks for asking that question. We probably should have addressed that
earlier. But, it is perhaps a little curious to some that Hong Kong would be
enjoying the growth that it is when Taiwan is down a little bit year-over-year.
The reason for that, we feel, is actually fairly it is a tactical issue.
China, as you know, has an open border with Hong Kong and so there is a lot of
flow of people and goods between Hong Kong and Mainland China. That is not the
case with Taiwan. In fact, I believe there are still no direct flights between
Taipei and Mainland China. You have to go through Hong Kong. So, a lot of our
Chinese developing sales leaders are spending time in Hong Kong with our sales
leaders there and Hong Kong is benefiting from that as a result. In Taiwan all
we are really seeing is the outbound flow of Taiwan leaders into Mainland China
with no residual benefit washing back into the Taiwan market. So, you know the
fact that Hong Kong is up as much as it is very encouraging. The fact that
Taiwan would be down a little bit is not particularly surprising. |
Ms. Reed: |
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But, do you have any plans in place to kind of increase sales just in the
Taiwan, just in the country itself, without any residual benefits from China? |
Mr. Hunt: |
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Yeah, of course we would like to grow sales in Taiwan, as we would in all of
our countries, and we do have plans in place and initiatives coming up, product
launches, the scanner again could play a meaningful role in Taiwan which it hasnt
done yet. And so, yeah, we are executing the business there as best we can to
keep sales up. |
Mr. Wood: |
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We kind of anticipate that by third quarter sales will be even or slightly
ahead. I think we are down about 13 percent in the fourth quarter
year-over-year and here in the first quarter we are down 7 percent. So, we
actually see the trend positive. We talk with Corey, our regional manager over
there, regional president of that region, who feels very positive about what he
sees in Taiwan, particularly the attitude of the leaders there and the success
they are having, you know in the region. So yeah, we actually feel quite
positive about where Taiwan is at today and believe that probably by the third
quarter we will see slight year-over-year increases. |
Ms. Reed: |
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Great and so, we should just see sequential improvement in the second quarter,
so maybe still down but not down as much as the seven? |
Mr. Wood: |
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That is correct. |
Ms. Reed: |
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Okay and just also, on Latin America, your new market that you opened in
September, I think you said in your remarks that it was up 19 percent, is that
sequentially or on a year-over-year basis? |
Mr. Hunt: |
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Yeah, that was year-over-year and that is for Mexico, Brazil and Guatemala
combined. |
Ms. Reed: |
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Okay, is it up sequentially or can you give us the dollar amount for those
markets, you know the whole market, just the region Latin America? |
Mr. Wood: |
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Yeah, the market as a region was about $650 thousand for the quarter, so still
very small. If you break that down, Brazil, which is really where we are
executing our experiment there and finding an emerging market model, was
actually up 39 percent in local currency. Mexico was down slightly and
Guatemala was up. |
Ms. Reed: |
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In all the local currencies? |
Mr. Wood: |
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That is correct. In all, year-over-year. |
Ms. Reed: |
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Year-over-year? |
Mr. Wood: |
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Year-over-year numbers, all in all, the business was up 19 percent in Latin
America. Ms. Reed: Okay. So, is the region, is it up from the fourth quarter as
well? Mr. Wood: No, no it is down and typically we always see a decline from
the fourth quarter to the first quarter. So, we would
have anticipated that. |
Mr. Hunt: |
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The first quarter is the hardest quarter in Brazil, so things tend to trend
down. But we are still encouraged with the year-over-year improvement, and
actually, particularly because we havent yet fully implemented our new
plan. We still have yet to introduce the Nu Skin Living line, we still have yet
to introduce the Pharmanex products that we are putting into that market, all
of which will happen in Brazil in the second quarter. |
Ms. Reed: |
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Okay, great. And just really quickly, the last question is just you made a
statement that you are changing the way you include your active distributors to
include the preferred customers from China, but now if I understand that, your
going to include your customers from your other markets so, is that just if
someone logs on to your Internet site and buys something without having a
distributor youre going to include that sale as a preferred customer? Is
that how I look at that? |
Mr. Wood: |
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Yeah, really the way we look at the preferred customers are those who come on
under a subscription plan with the business who are, you know, signed up with a
distributor, but are buying directly from the company. With the scanner
particularly in the U.S. and this is really the primary market that is affected
by this change today, but with the scanner rolling out we believe this will be
an important part of our business going forward, we have a lot of customers who
dont elect to sign up as a distributor right off, but they sign up for a
subscription order of products and stay with us for, you know, extended periods
of time. And particularly in the U.S., for example, in the first quarter we
added over 10,000 preferred customers to our business. It is just beginning to
be a more and more impactful piece of our revenue and we think that it is just
better disclosure to actually include them in that active number, so that you
can get a better feel for how the overall business is growing in terms of
active people buying directly from the company each quarter. |
Ms. Reed: |
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So it basically ties to the ADP orders? |
Mr. Hunt: |
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Yeah, you will recall, Kathleen, that in the past we included in our active
distributor count any distributor who purchased any level of products during
the prior quarter. So you know, we may have had a distributor who ordered ten
dollars worth of product in a quarter, we were counting as an active and so, it
just isnt quite right to have a subscriber whos giving it fifty,
sixty, seventy dollars a month or more in product purchases and not include
them in our numbers. |
Ms. Reed: |
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So, would this change at all with later on in the year when China changes the
direct selling rules? I mean so, is this all going to change again the way you
classify the people? |
Mr. Hunt: |
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No, I dont think so. I think we will just continue with it on this basis.
I think well continue to have a preferred customer status in China even
if the regs change. And in fact, most of our markets are developing preferred
customer programs similar to what we are seeing in the U.S. So, it is just
going to become a more important global number rather than a less important
number. |
Ms. Reed: |
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Okay, great. Well, thank you very much. |
Mr. Hunt: |
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Thank you, and operator we actually have to run to meetings here. So, if you dont
mind, well sign off and thank you all for joining us on the call today.
Again, we are at the Sidoti Conference today. We are also in New York City
tomorrow. I think our schedule is pretty booked, but you might give Scott Pond
or Charlie Allen a call if you would like to visit with us while we are here.
Thanks very much. |
Operator: |
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Thank
you for participating in today's conference, you may disconnect at this time. |